Dark and deflowering

[lucifrix.livejournal.com]

(If anyone reading this is also on the Yahoo Stargate story search list, yes, it's me. I'm hoping the people here deal a little more calmly even if they don't like what I've said. I admit though, I've made a few tweaks.)

Ahem.

Hi, all!! I have two requests...

1. I'm in the mood for REALLLLLLLLLY dark fic. That's pretty much always my favorite kind, but I've gone through what I already have. So, any of you who have a particular fic that comes to mind when you think "The darkest fic I know," please do pass the info on. I vastly prefer J/D slash to anything else, but I'm also open to other slash, gen, and certain het stories depending on the pairing/s involved (please specify). To be very clear, NOTHING is off-limits--I'm virtually unsquickable (except for Sam/Jack, for some reason), so do your worst.

2. I'd be curious to read stories of Jack and/or Daniel (I realize "and" is probably not gonna happen) being a woman's "first." I like my sex explicit and raunchy, and would prefer stories of this sort if possible (consensual or non-con). I don't really care for that very soft-core "stroking the dewy petals of her sex"-type stuff if it never gets dirtier--no offense to those who write it, but it's really not my cuppa. Also, it doesn't matter what age the guys are, but I find big age differences rather hot. [Originally I asked for stories of "deflowering" but SHEESH did someone totally lose her shit over it, insisting it referred to R A P E--that's how she spelled it--though I was actually thinking of the definition everyone else seems to use, the one that's just about "losing one's virginity." There has to be a better way to say that.]

Thanks in advance!!

Comments

[lazigyrl.livejournal.com]

Ah, can't really help you with you fic search, don't read dark stories so any deflowering (which by the way in no way relates to rape, simply loss of virginity, every woman who has ever had sex at least once has been deflowered - same for guys) would be rather tame. Though if you don't mind really tame ones (het is not my thing) I might be able to dig a few up once I get home.

[whisper99.livejournal.com]

For dark, two writers that come to mind are Pepe & Mitch. Have you read their stuff?

[lucifrix.livejournal.com]

I've read a lot by both of them, not sure if I've got all of it though. I didn't have them particularly in mind, so thanks for the info--now I can look for them specifically. :)

[green-grrl.livejournal.com]

<http://www.fan-archive.net/dlong/tao.htm>Fucked, by an anonymous author, is the darkest fic on my rec lists. It's a brilliant exploration of Daniel's thought process as Jack pulls him down a slippery slope. Not the way I view the characters, but a really interesting idea.

There are stories so squicky I can't put them on my rec list -- in fact I wish the brain bleach would work. Euphrosyne (http://www.darkgate.ws/euphrosyne.html) takes the boys really awful places -- if you think you're unsquickable, try The Commander's Discretion. Power Play is creepy, too. More darkfic writers also at http://www.darkgate.ws.

Other resources: stargateficrec has a Dark tag (http://community.livejournal.com/stargateficrec/tag/dark), and the Stargate Fan Awards (http://www.stargatefanawards.com/about/060_archives.shtml) have a Dark category in their archived noms.

Sorry, I don't read enough het to rec deflowering fics (and yeah, that's just plain old first-time in any definition I've heard). Unless you want genderbend, first time for one of the boys as a girl. ;-)

[lucifrix.livejournal.com]

Thank you! I've read all the stories you've rec'ed specifically, including both of those by Euphrosyne, which, for better or worse, didn't creep me the way they did you. It could be because they were just somewhat-more-icky slavery stories--I wonder if when I think 'dark' maybe there's some other element I'm thinking of that I can't quite articulate yet. I've read a majority of the J/D slash stuff at that site, AAMOF...I wish I could write so my perfect story could finally happen!! I'll definitely check the links--it does make it easier to see what others have classified as 'dark.'

I wouldn't mind that genderbend fic you mentioned--I have avoided fics where it's a long-term transformation, or where other guys end up coming into it, but that story you're referring to sounds like it could be awesome. I did, BTW, read a fic where both guys woke up in womens' bodies, and it was a surprisingly hot sex scene when they finally hooked up, but even then they were clearly the same boys. :)

[green-grrl.livejournal.com]

Scroll down to my genderbend recs here (http://green-grrl.livejournal.com/14286.html). Metamorphosis is a shorter and Adjustments is a longer "Daniel's first time as a woman is with Jack," both by CK. And the first chapter of Lady Arkin's Trials and Tribulations.

[fides.livejournal.com]

Can't help with the het stuff but have you tried Dark Divas (http://www.darkgate.ws/darkdivas.html)? If not, they have a fair amount of darkfic (the name sort of gives it away doesn't it). :-)

[lucifrix.livejournal.com]

I have, actually, and read most of what sounded interesting. I wonder if maybe I HAVE read so much that I've bled out all the usual suspects! :)

[stacy-l.livejournal.com]

Mitch H is also another one who writes really REALLY dark fic. I have a hard time reading some of his because they're so...dark.

Also at the Alpha Gate archive and I think Area 52 you can select the category "dark" to get a listing of the dark fic housed in either archive.

[lucifrix.livejournal.com]

I've read some of Mitch's...of the ones I've read, the darkest was 'Mad Wind,' the one about Makepeace locking Daniel up...that WAS pretty damned dark! I also know I searched Area52 for 'dark' but not Alpha Gate--I keep forgetting that there are other big archives except Area52.

Thanks for the recs. :)

[starglyph.livejournal.com]

This isn't as extremely dark as you're looking for, but they were in the back of my mind and I spent thirty minutes trying to refind them, so here you go- NC 17, dark, violence, non con, BDSM- both at Area 52

The Will of the Gods (http://area52hkh.net/asr/raec/willgods.htm) by RaeC

the sequel is

The Will of Daniel (http://area52hkh.net/asm/moondreamer/will.php) by Moondreamer1952

[lucifrix.livejournal.com]

I just reread "Will of Daniel" last week--that was awesome (just wish I could actually see Daniel with the long hair and the six-pack and the navel piercing, yum). I haven't read the the first one in a long time, though, so I'll have to go back...just the stuff the second story referenced was pretty heavy. Thanks!

[thenightsfall]

I can't help with any deflowering fic, as het fic is not my fanfic thing. As to dark fic...

green_grrl beat me to pointing you to Euphrosyne, though I, too, wouldn't really be rec'cing her fic. What I read of it I didn't like, but yes, it was dark. Another not necessarily a rec, but, yes, a dark fic would be Bitter Opportunity by The Tenth Muse.

[lucifrix.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the recs. :) E's stuff is pretty dark relatively speaking, I can see where it would freak you if you weren't info that. "Bitter Opportunity" I absolutely loved, I just wish we could've seen what happened afterward--I hate that there isn't more dark!Jack (Flatkatsi writes a little, but it's gen).

[thenightsfall]

Well, while it's not my favorite kind of reading, I've nothing against dark fic if it's in character and well-written. And one of the reasons I didn't care for Euphrosyne's, the admittedly little I read of it, was that the author was seemed obviously more into Jack than the other SG-1 characters. I'm a character reader myself, rather than a fandom reader, but my SG-1 character of choice is Daniel, so... ::g::

Happy to have helped with my "not really" recs. ; )

[avidrosette.livejournal.com]

In case you're still looking for recs in this category, here are few dark!Jack fics (all J/D):

Martha/Sinners Grove (http://soulcake.skeeter63.org/slash/grove.html)
dith/Rough Trade (http://area52hkh.net/asd/dith/roughtrade.php)
Janis Cortese/Bit and Harness (http://www.io.com/~cortese/stories/show.cgi?fandom=sg1&filename=harness.txt) (during Hathor)
Janis Cortese/Camera Oscura (http://www.io.com/~cortese/stories/show.cgi?fandom=sg1&filename=camera1.txt) (after Touched)
Catsmeow/Knifepoint (http://www.thealphagate.com/viewstory.php?action=printable&sid=2939&textsize=0&chapter=1) (smarm, not slash)

and a dark!Daniel:

Keiko Kirin/Possession (http://pteropus.com/keiko/sg/possession.html).

Hope you find a couple that are to your taste.

[lucifrix.livejournal.com]

I never thanked you for this, so, thanks!